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nineveh_uk ([personal profile] nineveh_uk) wrote2018-09-16 08:41 am

Star Trek - What's in a name

I finally got round to watching Star Trek: Beyond on Friday evening, having been sufficiently unimpressed with its astronomically boring predecessor that I felt no interest in watching any new Star Trek ever again. Say what you like about the original series, but it generally didn't present Spock's personal growth in terms of enthusiastic punching people to ridiculous "Pow!" sounds. Having heard that Beyond was actually a bit more like normal Star Trek than this, I decided I would give it a go, and indeed found it an enjoyable space romp that had finally grasped the concept of a bit of character development, i.e. not making that heroes actively unpleasant.

Nonetheless, some idiocy remains, and I'm not just talking about miniskirts without flame-retardant leggings. I'm not sure whether the decision to name a starship USS Franklin reflected the rather tedious inability to remember that the Federation is not actually meant to be the United States Empire in space, or someone's idea of dramatic irony. However I feel that if personally were in charge of naming a new starship destined to voyage into the unknown to seek out new worlds and new civilizations I would prefer to name it after a successful explorer: the USS Amundsen.

On the other hand, it might have been worse...

LOCATION: STARFLEET COMMAND

- Commander, the result of the public vote to name the new Starfleet vessel is about to be announced!

- USS Shippy McShipface.
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[personal profile] ankaret 2018-09-16 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
Based on nothing, and not planning to watch because I have an irrational aversion to Chris Pine's face, I'm going to headcanon that it was named after Rosalind Franklin.
Edited (stupid autocorrect!) 2018-09-16 11:51 (UTC)
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[personal profile] white_hart 2018-09-16 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Or Admiral Elizabeth Franklin (2106-2201), explorer and diplomat and one of the Founding Mothers of the Federation.
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[personal profile] azdak 2018-09-17 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
Have you seen Star Trek: Discovery on Netflix? It is (thankfully) not about men hitting each other, the ship has a sensible name and it is very keen to point out that the values of the current US administration are not (or should not be) those of Star Fleet. On the other hand, it is set during a war, so there's lot of unpleasant war stuff that definitely never showed up in the OTS.

Iain Banks's Culture ships have the best names. The two I can remember off the top of my head are the seek-out-new-life-and-new-civilisations research ship called Poke It With A Stick and the warship Free And Frank Exchange Of Views.
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[personal profile] azdak 2018-09-17 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
I never actually got into the Culture series - Iain Banks is very hit and miss for me and there are some grotesquely horrific moments in the series, of which I was unable to get past the first. But the ship's names are brilliant and the whole idea is brilliant and readers with less sensitive stomachs than mine rave about it.

[identity profile] ellid.livejournal.com 2018-09-17 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
I thought the ship was named the Franklin after the Arctic explorer, but then again the movie was pretty flimsy in a lot of ways.